Brothers in Crime

E62 Marvin Grimm Jr

If you’re listening to this podcast, then you probably know people in prison for hurting children make up the lowest rung of the prison status hierarchy. In this case, Marvin Grimm went to prison for nearly half a century as a convicted child murderer and sex offender. He confessed to his crimes. 
But, in June 2024, the Virginia Court of Appeals issued a writ of actual innocence in his case. What?! Why did the court do that? What did Marvin confess to doing fifty years ago? What happened to the victim in this case? We discuss all of that and plenty more in this episode.
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The following are links to some of the resources or references we discussed during or reviewed in preparation for this episode:  
June 18, 2024 - Attorney General Miyares Secures Third Writ of Actual Innocence
Marvin Grimm, Jr. - National Registry of Exonerations
Marvin Leon Grimm, Jr., v. Commonwealth of Virginia
After nearly 50 years, Virginia man wrongfully convicted of killing child is exonerated
Virginia Exonerates Marvin Grimm, Jr. in 1975 Murder Case After 45 Years of Wrongful Incarceration
Virginia Exonerates Man Who Spent 45 Years in Prison for Death of 3-Year-Old - The New York Times
After nearly 50 years, man wrongfully convicted of killing child is exonerated
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E61 Julie & Lollie

During the summer of 1996, Laura “Lollie” Winans and Julianne “Julie” Williams were murdered in Virginia’s Shenandoah National Park. Despite a suspect being charged with the couple’s murder in 2001, their case remained open and unsolved until June 2024—almost three decades after the murders. Listen now to find out more about these women, what happened to them, and the recent developments that have closed this case after so many years. If you listened to this episode, thanks for joining us on the Brothers in Crime podcast! If you liked it, please subscribe, tell a friend, and leave a review!
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The following are links to some of the resources or references we discussed during or reviewed in preparation for this episode:  
FBI Richmond Identifies Suspect in 1996 Shenandoah National Park Double Murder
Decades after 2 women were killed in Shenandoah National Park, serial rapist is linked to their deaths
Lollie Winans and Julie Williams: Couple's Murder at Shenandoah Remains Unsolved
Who’s Safe in the Woods? An Interview with Kathryn Miles, author of Trailed - Orion Magazine 
2 Young Women Camping in Shenandoah National Park Were Murdered in 1996. Now, the FBI Knows Who Killed Them
FBI: DNA evidence conclusively links Shenandoah National Park murders to convicted serial rapist
Opinion | FBI, solve the Julie Williams and Laura Winans murder with DNA - The Washington Post
 
Also, check out Mind over Murder’s coverage (we mentioned in this episode) here: Mind Over Murder 
 
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E60 Darlene & Michael [Zodiac]

Happy Fourth of July! One of the most infamous strings of unsolved homicides are attributed to a man who has eluded police officers for half a century. And one of the earliest (known) crimes he committed took place on July 4, 1969. Buckle up as we look at the man who called himself”Zodiac” through the lens of one of his earliest confirmed murders.
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# 2 – Blue Rock Springs Park : July 4, 1969 |
Zodiac Killer: The history of S.F.’s most infamous serial killer
The Zodiac Killer: A Timeline | HISTORY
Blue Rocks Spring, July 4, 1969 -- The Quester Files Zodiac Killer Investigation
https://cdn.history.com/sites/2/2017/11/Zodiac-Letter_1.jpg
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/06/us/zodiac-killer-identity-law-enforcement-investigation
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-news/springs-and-tuolumne
https://www.history.com/news/the-zodiac-ciphers-what-we-know
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2023/04/03/who-was-the-zodiac-killer/10711601002
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/06/us/zodiac-killer-identity-law-enforcement-investigation
https://zodiackillerfacts.com/myths-legends/darlene-ferrin-myths-the-beginning/
https://www.biography.com/crime/zodiac-killer#zodiac-killers-identity-theories-and-possible-suspects
Zodiac killer may have been more than one person: new doc
FBI Records: The Vault — The Zodiac Killer Part 01 of 06
Who Is the Zodiac Killer? Here Are All Theories and Suspects in the Case
The Zodiac Killer: A Timeline | HISTORY
Why the Zodiac Killer Has Never Been Identified
GEOGRAPHIC PROFILING - ZODIAC CIPHERS
https://www.zodiackiller.com/FerrinMageau.html
The Infamous Terry's Restaurant
https://www.zodiackiller.com/DanFerrin.html
https://www.zodiackiller.com/MageauPhotos.html
Zodiac killer still haunts victim's sister as surprising new theory emerges: 'I'm still hoping for closure' | Fox News
THE JULY 5TH 1969 PAYPHONE CALL - ZODIAC CIPHERS
BRS James Phillips Crabtree | Flickr
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E59 Human Trafficking

Human trafficking is defined by the U.S. State Department “as a crime whereby traffickers exploit and profit at the expense of adults or children by compelling them to perform labor or engage in commercial sex.  When a person younger than 18 is used to perform a commercial sex act, it is a crime regardless of whether there is any force, fraud, or coercion involved.”
We call it slavery. 
In this episode we talk about a federal prosecution of a North Carolina man who was convicted of conspiracy to commit sex trafficking by force, fraud, or coercion and of a minor;  sex trafficking by force fraud and coercion; sex trafficking of a minor; using the internet to promote a prostitution business enterprise (ITAR); and possession of a firearm by a convicted felon.
This case is horrible. Human trafficking is horrible. We must do everything we can to #EndHumanTrafficking. You can call the National Human Trafficking Hotline for help 24/7 at 1-888-373-7888 or text 233733.
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The following are links to some of the resources or references we discussed during or reviewed in preparation for this episode:  
National Human Trafficking Hotline | The Administration for Children and Families
Eastern District of North Carolina | Man Convicted of Human Trafficking by Federal Jury After Five-Day Trial | United States Department of Justice
Smithfield man who claimed magic powers gets life in prison for human trafficking
Already a convicted killer, Smithfield man now guilty of sex trafficking
Johnston Co NC man convicted of murder in 25-year-old killing | Raleigh News & Observer
Sex trafficker, murderer sentenced to life for 1999 killing | Crime | mydailyrecord.com
Smithfield man sentenced to 3 life sentences for human trafficking involving minors in NC
Clayton man found guilty in 25-year-old murder case in Johnston County
Johnston DA Reaches Deal With Admitted Murderer, Despite Family's Wishes
Bandida - Human Trafficking Short Film | Indiegogo
Understanding Human Trafficking - United States Department of State
International Justice Mission
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E58 Father's Day

We didn’t forget about all the dads out there; we saved our Father’s Day special for the Thursday after daddy’s day, so if you forgot to get your pops–or your daddy–something special, send this episode his way! The guys we’re talking about in this episode won’t be winning father of the year awards anytime soon.
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Father accused of Killing 16-year-old son with angle grinder
 
Jury convicts Lexington father of shooting, killing son. Life sentence recommended
 
Sentencing: Father who killed son over slice of Father's Day cake
Daughter Was Sentenced for Killing Dad, His Girlfriend After Being Cut Out of Will: Here's What She Told the Judge
 
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E57 CrimeCon 2024

In this episode of the Brothers in Crime Podcast, we talk about our experiences at CrimeCon 2024 held in Nashville, Tennessee. We discuss our interactions with fellow true crime enthusiasts, families of victims, and notable figures in the true crime community, including John Douglas and Dr. Michael Baden. Key highlights include stories from CrimeCon attendees like Rose Cobo, whose daughter Chelsea has been missing since 2016, and Bill Thomas, who continues to seek justice for his sister, Kathy, one of the Colonial Parkway murder victims. We also talk about some logistical challenges at the event *cough* exhibit hall *cough* and CrimeCon’s merch, while emphasizing the sense of community and shared passion for true crime that made the event memorable.Do you want to see us at CrimeCon in Denver? Tell us! But you should really tell the good folks at CrimeCon, so we can get a space on podcaster row. 
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Here’s something new — timestamps for our episode! Let us know what you think:
00:00 Introduction to the Brothers and Crime Podcast00:11 CrimeCon Experience in Tennessee03:05 Meeting Rose and Her Heartbreaking Story10:21 The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children14:42 The Case of Jason Landry16:08 Meeting Notable Figures in True Crime at CrimeCon23:25 Colonial Parkway Murders and Bill Thomas31:58 The CODIS Dilemma34:07 CrimeCon Highlights: John Douglas36:04 CrimeCon Experience: The Good and the Bad39:50 Navigating CrimeCon: Tips and Tricks49:41 CrimeCon Merch Madness59:29 Final Thoughts and Future CrimeCon Plans

E56 Marvin Heemeyer - Killdozer

Twenty years ago in Granby, Colorado – on June 4, 2004, Marv Heemeyer drove a modified bulldozer through town, destroying buildings and… well, you’ll have to listen to find out what happened. Sometimes referred to as the “killdozer,” this is a wild story. Buckle up!
The following are links to some of the resources or references we discussed during, or reviewed in preparation for, this episode:  
Tread (2019) - IMDb
AUDIO: Hear from Marvin Heemeyer himself in recorded ‘manifesto’ | SkyHiNews.com
'Killdozer' 20 years later: How and why a man went on a rampage through Granby in an armored bulldozer
Terror in Granby
7NEWS Looks Inside Granby Work Shed Where 'Dozer Was Outfitted
DOZER DIGS ITS OWN GRAVE USED BY ANGRY RESIDENT TO ATTACK GRANBY, MACHINE TO BE DISMANTLED AS SCRAP
20 years after a bulldozer rampage in a small Colorado town, the legacy of the “killdozer” lives on
'Nothing Could Stop It': Marvin Heemeyer's Rampage On Granby Detailed In 'TREAD' Documentary - CBS Colorado
Destroyed in Seconds - Bulldozer Rampage
Man Behind Rampage Found Dead
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E55 Nicole & Ron - Part 2

This episode picks up where we left off in part one, discussing the legal dream team, jury questionnaires & composition, the Fuhrman tapes bombshell, verdict and some of what came next. At the end though, we need to remember two people were horrifically and brutally murdered. Two people never got to live their lives and enjoy an old age. Two people's families lost loved ones and were forever changed. We need to remember Nicole and Ron.     
 
The following are links to some of the resources or references we discussed during, or reviewed in preparation for, this episode:  
O.J. Simpson trial: Night of the murders timeline - CNN.com
Everything O.J. Simpson Said About the Murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman
Nicole Brown Simpson: Biography, O.J. Simpson’s Ex-Wife, Death
"Absolutely 100 Percent Not Guilty": 25 Bizarre Things You Forgot About the O.J. Simpson Murder Trial
What Was O.J. Simpson's Life Like After Acquittal? A Look at His Final Years Before Death
Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman murdered | June 12, 1994 | HISTORY
The Trial of Orenthal James Simpson: An Account
The Trial of O. J. Simpson: Selected Documents
Jurors in the Simpson Civil Trial
Chronology of OJ Simpson Trials
Everything To Know About O.J. Simpson: From the Trial of the Century to His Robbery Conviction
 
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E54 Nicole & Ron - Part 1

Often referred to as the trial of the century, The People v. OJ Simpson is both a landmark and lightning rod of American history. In this episode the Brothers Introduce Nicole Brown Simpson, Ron Goldman, and the guy who was charged with their murders and wrote the book If I did it. We also share his less well known writing that some believe was a suicide note. You decide. 
 
The following are links to some of the resources or references we discussed during, or reviewed in preparation for, this episode:  
O.J. Simpson trial: Night of the murders timeline - CNN.com
Everything O.J. Simpson Said About the Murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman
Nicole Brown Simpson: Biography, O.J. Simpson’s Ex-Wife, Death
"Absolutely 100 Percent Not Guilty": 25 Bizarre Things You Forgot About the O.J. Simpson Murder Trial
What Was O.J. Simpson's Life Like After Acquittal? A Look at His Final Years Before Death
Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman murdered | June 12, 1994 | HISTORY
The Trial of Orenthal James Simpson: An Account
The Trial of O. J. Simpson: Selected Documents
Jurors in the Simpson Civil Trial
Chronology of OJ Simpson Trials
Everything To Know About O.J. Simpson: From the Trial of the Century to His Robbery Conviction
 
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E53 Clayton, Hunter, & Chase

In this episode, we delve into the heart-wrenching case of Clayton, Hunter, and Chase Doerman, three young brothers from Ohio, aged seven, four, and three, who were murdered by their father, Chad Doerman, in June 2023.
Join us as we discuss the events of that fateful day, the aftermath, and the ongoing legal proceedings.
 
https://www.wlwt.com/article/chad-doerman-father-accused-of-murdering-sons-death-penalty/60683590
 
https://people.com/ohio-dads-alleged-confession-killing-3-sons-execution-style-thrown-out-by-judge-8611100
 
https://people.com/chad-doerman-case-new-documents-allege-ohio-dad-said-before-killings-8642007
 
https://www.fox19.com/2024/05/03/prosecutors-continue-seek-death-penalty-man-accused-killing-his-3-sons/
 
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